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	<title>Comments on: Back to the Apple Store&#8230; (more Macbook Pro fun)</title>
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		<title>By: MacMusoDude</title>
		<link>http://www.velumens.com/words/2008/07/23/back-to-the-apple-store-more-macbook-pro-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>MacMusoDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI, I recently (like less than three weeks ago) bought a new MBP in Australia, and have experienced exactly the same problem. Can you confirm that it was Apple themselves who explained right out of the box that you need a new machine?  

I called the store I bought this in (we don&#039;t have Apple stores here on the west coast only authorised resellers), and they were very defensive even on the phone, insisting it was a software problem. I called bullshit and they said to do a firmware update, which is kind of hilarious because that&#039;s a hardware problem.

If Apple themselves said you need a new machine through official channels, then I&#039;ll just go direct through Apple rather than waste my time trying use vaporware solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI, I recently (like less than three weeks ago) bought a new MBP in Australia, and have experienced exactly the same problem. Can you confirm that it was Apple themselves who explained right out of the box that you need a new machine?  </p>
<p>I called the store I bought this in (we don&#8217;t have Apple stores here on the west coast only authorised resellers), and they were very defensive even on the phone, insisting it was a software problem. I called bullshit and they said to do a firmware update, which is kind of hilarious because that&#8217;s a hardware problem.</p>
<p>If Apple themselves said you need a new machine through official channels, then I&#8217;ll just go direct through Apple rather than waste my time trying use vaporware solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan, I gotta say I&#039;m a bit dubious that the replacement fixes it as well. I&#039;m hopeful but not counting on it. Before I shipped it out on Friday, I reformatted the drive, did a clean install and ran this way for a day. Everything ran swimmingly and my efforts to get the display issues to appear all failed. I thought about keeping it around and slowly adding things to the system to see what I could find out, but the desperation for a quick replacement and the hope this does the trick won out. You&#039;ll definitely hear more as I get it up and running...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan, I gotta say I&#8217;m a bit dubious that the replacement fixes it as well. I&#8217;m hopeful but not counting on it. Before I shipped it out on Friday, I reformatted the drive, did a clean install and ran this way for a day. Everything ran swimmingly and my efforts to get the display issues to appear all failed. I thought about keeping it around and slowly adding things to the system to see what I could find out, but the desperation for a quick replacement and the hope this does the trick won out. You&#8217;ll definitely hear more as I get it up and running&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Warne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Warne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interested to hear if the replacement system solves your problem. If it does, I&#039;d say Apple has a very expensive problem on its hands. As much as you might not want to hear this I&#039;m kinda hopeful the replacement system has exactly the same problem because that would demonstrate that it&#039;s a software problem. I&#039;m the guy that wrote the original APC article that drew all the attention to this problem and have been suffering from this problem since getting my MBP in Feb. I think Apple has improved things a bit with the 10.5.4 update because I certainly see the problem less often than I used to, however it will still reliably start happening eventually -- usually after I have had the MBP running for a couple of days without a reboot. 

I&#039;m disappointed with many aspects of this MBP:

- the ambient light sensor is clearly faulty, with the keyboard flashing on and off constantly if I switch on keyboard backlighting at all

- the sound output port has annoying R2D2 sounds at the end of any audio playback... and although this can be worked around by using high impedance headphones, I&#039;ve never had this problem with any previous MBP or PowerBook G4. 

- the graphics output has this annoying glitching problem (fortunately the actual screen corruption rarely affects Firefox I find, so as long as I don&#039;t use Safari I can keep it at bay most of the time -- though the flashing video is pretty much system-wide.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interested to hear if the replacement system solves your problem. If it does, I&#8217;d say Apple has a very expensive problem on its hands. As much as you might not want to hear this I&#8217;m kinda hopeful the replacement system has exactly the same problem because that would demonstrate that it&#8217;s a software problem. I&#8217;m the guy that wrote the original APC article that drew all the attention to this problem and have been suffering from this problem since getting my MBP in Feb. I think Apple has improved things a bit with the 10.5.4 update because I certainly see the problem less often than I used to, however it will still reliably start happening eventually &#8212; usually after I have had the MBP running for a couple of days without a reboot. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m disappointed with many aspects of this MBP:</p>
<p>- the ambient light sensor is clearly faulty, with the keyboard flashing on and off constantly if I switch on keyboard backlighting at all</p>
<p>- the sound output port has annoying R2D2 sounds at the end of any audio playback&#8230; and although this can be worked around by using high impedance headphones, I&#8217;ve never had this problem with any previous MBP or PowerBook G4. </p>
<p>- the graphics output has this annoying glitching problem (fortunately the actual screen corruption rarely affects Firefox I find, so as long as I don&#8217;t use Safari I can keep it at bay most of the time &#8212; though the flashing video is pretty much system-wide.)</p>
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